Millersville University, Faculty Senate
Attachment G
Faculty Senate Minutes
3 December 1996
First Responses to Task Force Recommendations
by the General Education Review Committee
Having had very little time to read or analyze the recommendations ahead
of time, the committee met on Tuesday, November 26, 1996 and came to some
informal consensus on the following points, as our initial response:
A. To the Rationale on p. 1: We generally agreed with the task force
goals, but some had various reservations:
1. Under the goal of simplification, the task force suggests that some
of its recommendations, such as eliminating label requirements, will
improve the advising process. Several members of our committee felt it
might have precisely the opposite effect by accelerating an already
existing tendency to see the advising process as simply a card-signing
process, rather than as an opportunity for faculty advisors to explain
requirements to students, and assist students in focusing on their own
objectives in getting an education.
2. Throughout the report, some saw little evidence that serious
cost/benefit analysis had been done to validate any of its claims that its
proposals would save money, and that it would do so without negatively
impacting educational quality.
3. While the committee found the distinction between Phase 1 and Phse
2 useful, some found puzzling the task force's desire to implement
substantive changes during Phase 1, given that some or all of these might
be inconsistent with the changes which are certain to follow in the wake
of Phase 2. Phase 2 involves a serious revision of the goals and
objectives of general education, a task which our committee began almost
two years ago, but had to shelve due to other demands which were placed on
us since then. It is the committee's belief that these changes should
guide the process of reforming general education. For this reason, during
Phase 1, our committee mainly supports those recommendations which involve
little change from the status quo.
B. Phase 1:
1. After some discussion, it was agreed that #1 and #2 represent small
changes and seem relatively unproblematic. The rationale under #1a makes
little sense as it stands, and it is assumed that the fourth block is just
a gathering together of requirements that don't fit under other blocks,
presumably for the purpose of making advising easier? #6 was also seen as
a continuation of the present de facto system, and hence as representing
only a minor change. However, concern was expressed that it should be
understood that this change ought not be construed as one which makes
w-courses easier to teach, and consequently, should not serve as an excuse
to continue to raise the size of w-classes.
2. Various members of the committee saw serious difficulties with
recommendations #3, 4, and 5. All were perceived as major changes which
could erode educational quality. In particular:
a. #3 was puzzling, as, if few students have difficulty satisfying
this requirement, how will eliminating it make graduation easier or save
the university money? The task force also did not discuss the original
rationale for requiring C and Q courses. We believe it would be better to
consider this issue as part of the Phase 2 process, after we have
redefined general education objectives.
b. Apparently, as regards QARC courses, the task force was working on
the false assumption that only math and computer science courses count as
QARC. Several other departments teach QARC courses, including Geography,
Philosophy, and Economics. To discourage other departments from teaching
QARC courses would be completely inconsistent with the task force's
recommendation under Phase 2, #3, that other departments be encouraged to
develop advanced writing courses. In addition, it is difficult to see how
makeing fewer QARC courses available to students will make it easier for
them to graduate in a timely fashioin, nor how it will save the university
money. Again, we recommend this label be reconsidered only as part of the
Phase 2 process.
c. Recommendation #5 is questionable on two counts. First, is it
likely to save the university money? How many students would actually take
only three upper level courses, even if only three were required, given
the number of required related courses many students take, plus the four
w-course requirement. Second, assuming that a fair number of students do
end up taking only three upper-level courses, would this be educationally
desirable? After all, requiring only four out of twelve gen ed courses to
be above the 100 level is a pretty weak requirement laready. Further, when
the present system was instituted, both administrators and faculty agreed
that the present requirement would definitely represent a more demanding
system that would pay off in educational quality. What evidence does the
task force have that this is no longer true? Finally, the assumption that
the best place to increase class size in in 100-level classes, taken
mainly by freshmen, runs contrary to the most recent studies, which
suggest that freshman learning and retention are significantly improved by
putting them in smaller classes.
C. Phase 2:
The committee is generally sympathetic with the task force's description
of this phase, with a couple of exceptions:
1. Several members agreed that as we move towards assessable
objectives and goals, we need to remember that not every educational
objective will be measurable, and we need to be careful not to lose sight
of this.
2. Recommendation #4 under this phase (eliminating the use of labels
to designate requirements) might be acceptable as a possibility to be
considered during Phase 2, but it would seem foolish at this point to tie
the hands of the committee undertaking the Phase 2 process. Perhaps the
task force is simply recommending that, during the Phase 2 process,
serious attempts be made to find ways of achieving general education
objectives, as redefined, without resorting to the cumbersome present
system of requiring courses by labels. If so, our committee would not find
this recommendation problematic.
3. To avoid confusion, under the PROPOSED CURRICULUM on p. 4, it would
be best to specify that this is what it would look like at the end of the
adoption of Phase 1. After all, we don't know what the curriculum might
look like after the Phase 2 process is completed. We would also propose
that it explicity include other requirements, such as the 4 courses per
block, two from one department, a lab course, etc., so that it is clear on
what exactly we are voting.